Scratch that, reverse that. I'm starting off with the eclectics: (So eclectic it's totally unrelated to the reading, last week's class, and probably the course in general)
I just need to vent about the state of education in my home state. My brother shared a story from my mom, a teacher, about the effect standardized tests are having. There is a standardized test students take every year, but scores for all students are only kept through a certain grade level. After that, they only keep the scores of students benefiting from their special programs. The problem? If I'm a student in a higher grade, who may need extra assistance, I can only get that assistance by looking at previous scores. Which they won't have, because they stopped keeping them. Why are the people selling tests determining who gets help? Grrrr.
The other great story from my home state is that the state superintendent of education has decided that all incoming 9th graders should be provided a laptop (courtesy of the state). In theory it will save the state money, because they won't have to buy textbooks. (Really? Explain that to me...) The only people who think this is a great idea is the superintendent and a few big businesses. My brother (a senior) laughed--he said the laptops would get trashed, and no one would pay attention in class. What are your thoughts?
So, now that I'm off my soapbox, lets move on. How was class? It was a pretty good one, and I must agree, old fashioned valentine's are weird. Also, I really liked the hook questions. They are kind of like another version of story problems, perhaps a more effective use of story problems.
In terms of Monday's discussion of transfer: I don't think this was a new concept, it was just giving it a name. I think we have pretty much covered it, but I do have one more thing to say--a mini soapbox. There seemed to be some disdain for comparing Egypt to France, because France was too outdated, not as relevant, and couldn't we get something more recent to compare it to. May I point out that the point of transfer is that it isn't dated? What a great thing to teach students, that something that happened over 200 years still has relevance--that people are fighting for the same things now that they did then. Also, what a great chance to look at how the world has changed. It makes history relevant and gets us thinking about ourselves and our world. I think it is an excellent demonstration of what transfer is all about. It could also be a great theme for a book club--revolutions throughout time. (groan--cheesy transition)
So, I am a huge fan of reading, and discussing what I read. I have been in a book club once, and enjoyed it, but I think I participate in an ongoing informal book club with my family and friends, and in the context of SI and classes, with colleagues and peers. I think that Hoffert's article presented some great suggestions for libraries in terms of book clubs, and the untapped potential for these groups. The thought that just popped into my head is, "What would a thematic Socratic Seminar look like?" Could be interesting.
The Socratic Seminar readings were also interesting. Okay, I confess, Metzger's was interesting. Tredway's was informative, but a little drier. (And, it really wasn't that dry, so what am I complaining about?) I wasn't completely sold on the idea after Tredway--I mean, it has value, and that is clear, but what really sold me was Metzger's application. I love the way Metzger made the Socratic Seminar work for what she needed. Not only were students gaining new insight and knowledge about literature, they were learning to read a wide variety of texts and comprehend them. They were learning how to deconstruct an argument, how to think and form ideas--reading skills, yes, but also thinking skills. Sweet! And, I must say, what an intimidating undertaking. This type of experience requires a lot of trust and openness. Metzger was asking her students to put themselves on the line, and fortunately they rose to the challenge, with really amazing results. Would it work in every setting? I don't know. Could you conduct a Socratic Seminar with first graders focusing on sounding out words? Maybe, but do first graders have the attention span and cognitive ability to pull off that type of thing? I really don't know.
As I read, my general impression was a Socratic Seminar has a more specific purpose, a more educationally oriented intent, than a book club, which is more relaxed and less structured in terms of purpose. I think the discussion that takes place can be quite similar, depending on the book club members, and I wouldn't discount the ability of book clubs to have a profound effect on the thinking and reading skills of participants. In that regard, the two formats are quite similar: they encourage collaboration, open discussion in non-hostile (ideally) environments, and you get to read awesome stuff.
In summation, fabulous readings, valuable suggestions, ideas and insights, and now I really want to read a good book and talk about it with someone. (Just started Mockingjay, by Suzanne Collins. One step down...)
While I really like your discussion of the book clubs and socratic seminars, I am going to comment on your real world posts because I am glad that you wrote about stuff that's affecting you - and is related to this class. I am a huge opponent of standardized tests as the only form of assessment for students and find it ludicrous that it's basically a money-making business at the expense of kids. Those who write the tests make those determinations that you mentioned as well as deciding what kids should know. You got me fired up. Further - about the laptops - anyone who things that ebooks will always replace books is a little nuts (see Dalton's article). However, I am not sure that the kids will "trash the laptops." My only experience with seeing this is my fiancee's brother who was given a netbook by his school. He never talked about kids disrespecting the property, which I was kind of surprised by. Then I remembered my teaching philosophy - TRUST. I've always believed that when kids are trusted and given a chance (as Metzger did with their reading discussions) that they can and will step up and exceed expectations. So, that's a little off your topic, but I would be interested to see research on what giving kids laptops actually does (besides not save the school money :).
ReplyDeleteThe idea of students being provided laptops is fascinating...I mean a textbook is just a textbook but you can play world of warcraft on a laptop. Possibly during class. It seems like providing everyone an eReader might be a bit more sound.
ReplyDeleteI also very much agree that socratic seminars versus book clubs might work better in different situations, especially the "assessing group dynamics" aspects of the socratic seminar, which might not go over so well with adults visiting a public library that have no history with each other. But all the ideas were interesting and useful, context considered.
I'm with you that giving laptops to High School students is rather risky. My school treated computers the same way it did cell phones-- they should be turned off and kept out of sight during school hours. Even without wifi in the building, kids can get into a lot of trouble with laptops and I think it requires a certain amount of maturity to resist the impulse to wander off and browse when you know you should be taking notes. Also, I've heard (but have no empirical evidence to prove) that students comprehend more when they write notes long-hand versus typing them.
ReplyDeleteI was also skeptical about 1 to 1 laptop programs, but have been reading about them for another class while exploring the use of iPads in schools. Trashing laptops doesn't seem to be a problem since students don't want to lose access to them, but keeping students focused on school related tasks can be. The 1 to 1 programs seem to work best when the curriculum is created first to take advantage of the technology, instead of passing out the technology and then deciding what to use it for. Just my 2 cents worth.
ReplyDeleteWhat did you think of Mockingjay?